NYCCC 10K [Top 8 Warbands]

treeky

http://dreamblade.tcgplayer.com/db/Warbands.asp?Location=2007%2010k%20New%20York%20City,%20NY&order_by=place
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Boriqua Power

Elliot Ortiz

2007 10k New York City, NY

1st

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Rage of the Reaper

Steven Marshall

2007 10k New York City, NY

2nd

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Senergy Gambit

Corey Ivy

2007 10k New York City, NY

3rd - 4th

Passion of the Aviax

John Fanjoy

2007 10k New York City, NY

3rd - 4th

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Counter/Burn

Justin Cohen

2007 10k New York City, NY

5th - 8th

Ragedrake Frenzy

Chris McCreath

2007 10k New York City, NY

5th - 8th

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Passion of the Aviax

Jesse Dean

2007 10k New York City, NY

5th - 8th

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Wheels of Doom

Barry Quick

2007 10k New York City, NY

5th - 8th

Lubi

Almost every army would have the temple or castle or both. Most would have 2 temples. Amybe we'd find some location stealing/ destroying piece which is more playable then.

treeky

神廟的功能在於產出 Mana, 就如同　MTG 一般, 有穩定的Mana, 打什麼變化都會比較方便一些

在DreamBlade中, 我覺得神廟的用途其實是穩定為主, 大Mana供給為輔

jojoyalo

喔，車輪有進前八呢
說實在我絕得我組的去打說不定也有好成績呢...^_^....哈哈
, U- b5 m% e% F2 d4 V- w不過他棋子的選擇也很不錯
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# z' h9 U, ]2 R& G[ 本帖最後由 jojoyalo 於 2007-3-2 12:57 編輯 ]

treeky

剛剛才發現........我前天資料庫不穩時候po的 車輪戰團改 找不到了...........
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還寫了戰術耶
一下子懶惰不想寫了

Lubi

The problem is that the temple's rare, and everyone is using it. In other words, this figure is the single most overpowered unit. I've met a player who would use this figure in every deck, no matter what colour it's playing. He would start getting the benefit since the 3rd turn.

treeky

但是temple再暴力, 我個人覺得最暴力, 真的好像是做壞掉的 應該是 聖甲蟲

嗯嗯 沒錯是聖甲蟲
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同等級中, 單面像, 3點施放費用, 可以有 多重刀鋒 + 一個單刀鋒, 且6/7同施放能力中最硬的, 無任何副作用

1 `1 B0 f' `  A在第一彈, 第二彈系列, 當時國外的Deck連 Mono Madness+DHC 都後來把 拷貝魔 改為 聖甲蟲
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9 k# ^0 a0 [; Z# W, a( }& s, y  R1 A實在是沒辦法啊~~~
8 x6 C8 m' k* L/ p. d* w" Z# [5 c誰叫他集千萬寵愛於一身呢

7 }( I1 G% L" _初期系列當初設計之時, 應該有把某些能力 想像過強 某些又想像過弱
例如: Book of Nothing 就是個可憐的傢伙.....
同樣是R, 三面像, 1/1/4, 即使是warstrike 3是直接性攻擊,
可是實際用過的人就會知道, 就算是搭配DHC, 你要骰到三個刀鋒都還要靠點運氣
% a$ `' w7 Y( o" Z3 {$ x當DHC+Book of Nothing+某個大骰生物, 假設場上有三個為交戰生物, 有骰到三個刀鋒
$ F* h6 Z9 g, F, H  g3 ^的確, 妳除了可以清除DHC本身Cell的生物, 還可以打三個目標各 6顆骰
$ V5 P4 x6 \! C* }6 A( r- x9 t! T想起來很可觀, 可惜實際戰術執行卻有困難呢 >"<
3 a) b; k- t0 o/ k# ^* n而且往往狀況會是 兩個刀鋒 + 每個目標5顆骰
2 b9 u5 l  Q8 g% D) n然後你會處理最麻煩的中型生物, 因此都打在同一個目標10顆骰
之後的發展往往是...
. ^+ M$ ]; L' ?/ J沒人會進入DHC那格, 看到無字天書上場, 分個一點打飛他就好了
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一下子吐了不少苦水
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所以我是衝著骨氣不想用他

Lubi

Definitely appreciate your opinion, but can't agree wtih you.
Warcharm is a overpower figure, concerning just it's low cost and its basic stats. Together with its movement ability, it's terrible. However, there just too many ways to disturb/ destroy it while using your ORDINARY band. The location's problem is that you need to dedicate 1 creature for this purpose. Just look at what we got now: Slaughter boots, arsonist, toxic sludge and the grenadier. All of them have almost 2 dice less compared with their companions with the same cost. And this is a very signifant disadvantage if your component doesn't use any location.

jojoyalo

location的問題是普遍存在的
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所以對付對手的location要就放解不然就自己也放location跟對手拼
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; J2 R3 M# c& @/ _& W" }$ }; ^  ntemple的問題之所以浮現
主要是因為狐女被禁
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1 |3 Q; o& S6 ?5 g# I# ^神廟跟甲蟲，兩個都是作壞了的有趣東西
其實大家可以發現
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很難不放個一兩隻
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小朱

問個笨問題Q.Q
Mono Madness
DHC
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Lubi

Mono madness is not a figure, it means the whole warband is from Madness i.e. Black.
DHC is Darkheart Cottage, which is the black's most powerful location. (although still much weaker compared with teh temple or castle)

Uming

老實說，我覺得我們討論組出來的車輪比較威，光是SKIRMISH 2就差很多了，只是他組的前期比較穩。
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Uming

嘿嘿，我上週想的一個戰團還跟第一名的戰團蠻接近的，只是我是組綠黑，強度也待確認，
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另外，一件有趣的事，八強中，WARCRY 、 BOGEYMAN出現率還頗高，
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treeky

warcry的節奏感不錯
上次阿德應該有看到我打warcry時候的有想到的新方式
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其實warcry沒有想像中的廝殺呢
如果要改組棋王, 我會想放warcry